proxy I can use?

[Nulland Void]

Hey, all.

What am I doing wrong?
This is my first crack at using proxies and it ain't a-workin'.
I'm using rosinstruments proxy lists, doing the right thing in Nav's proxy settings, but after trying about *00 of them, I either can't connect, or if I connect, I'm not anon.

So,am I missing something?

[Nulland Void]

Hello...???

[Blacksheep]

Openly covert Nulland Void...

Didn't you know patience is a virtue? I don't have any either.:)

Not familiar with Nav proxy settings but assuming you've got it right, try disabling ActiveX, Java, Javascript and retest your working proxies that were not anon before. Here's another proxy checker: http://www.stilllistener.addr.com/checkpoint*/index.shtml

Take A4Proxy for a test drive and take the drudgery outa testing all those proxies: http://www.inetprivacy.com/a4proxy/index.htm

Dark black,

[Nulland Void]

Hi Blacksheep,

Sorry 'bout the impatience, and thanks for the reply.

All the settings you mention are ok (ActiveX is IE only, and I never use that b***er).

Anyways, I think I'll just have to try a whole slew of proxies before I get some that will work for me.

I was reading in the documentation that many proxies won't allow specific blocks of IP #'s. Maybe that's the problem.

I tried A4 about one year ago and got totally confused.

When I try proxies and get one that doesn't deny me access, I go to Steve Gibson's site and do a ShieldsUp test. But every time my real IP # shows up.

I guess it's just a matter of trying a bunch of proxies until one works. Or is it?

rosinstruments and some other site I can't remember the name of give a list of free public and anonymous proxies, but these proxies refuse to cooperate with me.

[Blacksheep]

Quotes from Nulland Void:
"Sorry 'bout the impatience"

Just kidding you.:)

"I tried A4 about one year ago and got totally confused."

It would be worthwhile to learn how to use it. One can automatically test a list of proxies, modify HTTP header requests so one is not advertising OS, browser, installed software, etc., simulate (fake) IP, etc..

"When I try proxies and get one that doesn't deny me access, I go to Steve Gibson's site and do a ShieldsUp test. But every time my real IP # shows up."

What do you mean by "deny me access"?

If you've got Gibson's IP Agent installed, it will. ShieldsUp initial page is a https (SSL) connection. Your proxy must support https for it to work. One way to test proxy https support is to attempt connect to https URL like https://www.mail2web.com/cgi-bin/login.asp?lid=0&il=0

"I guess it's just a matter of trying a bunch of proxies until one works. Or is it?"

Yup. Sometimes one works today but gone tomorrow.

"rosinstruments and some other site I can't remember the name of give a list of free public and anonymous proxies, but these proxies refuse to cooperate with me."

I haven't had much trouble with rosininstruments proxies, think you're doing something wrong. Maybe someone else has some ideas.

[Nulland Void]

Lookee lookee here!

I think I got me a good one:
proxy.bnet.net.tr:80 (that's Turkey, isn't it?)

I checked it at Still's and the results look great.
(too bad I don't understand any of it, but at least my IP # is...not my IP #)

Can't get in at GRC's. I hope he not being DOSed again.

Ok. I'll give A4 another try, although I can't say I care much about revealing my OS, browser...etc.
As long as my IP # is hidden.
What do you think of Proxymitron?
I used it for a while but sometimes it acted up (wouldn't let me connect).

"Access denied" is a reply I get a lot when I try proxies, but most of the time it just times out; "Netscape can't access...bla bla bla".

Don't have IP Agent.

I'll keep testing proxies and post the good ones here.
Unless that's not ok? I don't know...
Would that be ok???

[Blacksheep]

Quotes from Nulland Void:

"I think I got me a good one:
proxy.bnet.net.tr:80 (that's Turkey, isn't it?)"

Yes http://www*.ics.uci.edu/pub/websoft/wwwstat/country-codes.txt

"What do you think of Proxymitron?"

Dunno, haven't tried it.

""Access denied" is a reply I get a lot when I try proxies, but most of the time it just times out; "Netscape can't access...bla bla bla"."

Tell us exactly how you try proxies.

"I'll keep testing proxies and post the good ones here.
Unless that's not ok? I don't know...
Would that be ok???"

Sure. But, good proxies are like gems. Do you want a zillion netizens to use your favorite proxies, then they overload and shut down?:)

[Nulland Void]

That's good advice Blacksheep.

Ok. When I try a proxy, I go in my Nav's Edit menu, Preferences, Advanced, Proxies, Manual proxy configuration, View.
Then in Servers, HTTP:(put in IP # or proxy's name, ie:2**.22.***.82 or pad20**08*67075.ozemail.com.au, and the port # in the corresponding field)

This has now become a moot point since I've found about half a dozen that work, BUT...

each one I try and test at Still's and http://leader.ru/secure/who.html
show a different IP # than my real one, which is wonderful. However, GRC shows my real IP #.

??????????????????????????????????????????????

This is a mind boggler.

(I don't know how that thingy face got in up there)
Oh god! more mysteries...

[Nulland Void]

Yep! There's definitely something not quite right here.

I just tested another half dozen which show me anonymous at Still's and at this other guy in Russia, but my real IP # always shows up at GRC's.

Very disturbing.
Very depressing.
I think I'll go out for a beer...

[Blacksheep]

"That's good advice Blacksheep."

I try when I'm in a good mood.

"This has now become a moot point since I've found about half a dozen that work, BUT... each one I try and test at Still's and http://leader.ru/secure/who.html
show a different IP # than my real one, which is wonderful. However, GRC shows my real IP #."

Maybe you should double check to make sure you don't have Gibson's IP Agent in your box.

"??????????????????????????????????????????????

This is a mind boggler."

Think of it as a challenge.

"(I don't know how that thingy face got in up there)
Oh god! more mysteries... "

Smilie characters produce smilies if smilies are enabled. You can "Disable Smilies in This Post" right above "Submit ...". Perfectionists "Preview ..." and check links before submitting.

"Yep! There's definitely something not quite right here.

I just tested another half dozen which show me anonymous at Still's and at this other guy in Russia, but my real IP # always shows up at GRC's."

Again, IP Agent?
Try clearing your browser cache before going to grc. Re***** your browser on grc.

We gotta solve your enigma.:)

[Unregistered]

Hi Blacksheep,

Thanks for the support!

My browser cache is set at 0 (zero, that is) and I've neutered the fat.db file. So not even an eight of a byte could get in there in there.


As for IP Agent, I seem to recall having that installed about two years ago, but there has been five formats and clean re-installs of Windows since then and so I don't think IP Agent would have survived that.

I would be curious to know if the same thing happens to others. Any takers?

'coz I'm right baffled with this...

[Nulland Void]

Oh crud! I forgot to log in and now I can't fix the typo.
Preview button?
What preview button? (wink! wink! nudge, nudge)

[Nulland Void]

Hello...?

[Blacksheep]

Nulland Void...
Close your browser and clear your browser cache, start new browser and "Test My Shields!" with anon proxy.

Does this solve your true IP problem at grc?

[Nulland Void]

Hi Blacksheep,

As I mentioned in one of the above posts, nothing gets in my tweaked cache (I use Nav, remember?).

However, just to get that cache issue out of the way, and because I respect your opinion, I did what you said.

Problem is still there.

This morning I tested another half dozen proxies, and the situation hasn't changed.

I really wish someone else would try it out, just to see.
Here's some proxies to try:

proxy.bnet.net.tr:80
mail.klimatair.gr:80
**4.27.5*.4:80
**4.78.5.**4:80
202.44.245.*0:8080
202.24.*42.*8:80

and I check them at:
http://leader.ru/secure/who.html
http://www.stilllistener.addr.com/checkpoint*/index.shtml

and ShieldsUp:
https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

I'm at wits end...

Hey wait a minute! I just noticed that the ShieldsUp test site is https.

Might that mean something???

[Blacksheep]

"As I mentioned in one of the above posts, nothing gets in my tweaked cache (I use Nav, remember?).

However, just to get that cache issue out of the way, and because I respect your opinion, I did what you said."

I'll bet you didn't close your browser, start new browser THEN go to grc and test anon proxy in new browser.

"I really wish someone else would try it out, just to see."

I did and can repeat your problem. When you first "Test My Shields!" grc remembers that IP for additional tests (proxy or no proxy), maybe with enviornmental variable UNIQUE_ID. Looks like a grc bug. So, to test from another IP, i.e. your anon proxy, you need to test in browser with no previous grc history.

"Hey wait a minute! I just noticed that the ShieldsUp test site is https.

Might that mean something???"

As I mentioned earlier in this thread (remember?):

"ShieldsUp initial page is a https (SSL) connection. Your proxy must support https for it to work. One way to test proxy https support is to attempt connect to https URL like https://www.mail2web.com/cgi-bin/login.asp?lid=0&il=0 "

[Nulland Void]

Did exactly as thou hast commanded, my ******...

Real IP # still shows up.

(BTW, saw u at ddis)

[Blacksheep]

Nulland Void:
"Did exactly as thou hast commanded, my ******... "

I'll hunt for my crown.:)

"Real IP # still shows up."

Well, I'm outa ideas. I can get grc to remember my true IP when using proxy but I'm using MSIE 5.5, Win*8. Solution mentioned above works for me. Maybe it's some setting in Navigator. Of course you have Java and scripting disabled and are using anon proxy. If you solve this enigma I'd sure like to know the answer.

"(BTW, saw u at ddis)"

The Internet is a big marvelous place, I get around cyberspace a bit.

Good luck...

[Nulland Void]

My deepest gratitude for your kind efforts, Blacksheep.

I know that one is a real brain-mangler, but by gosh and by golly, I will find and solve the problem, and when I do I'll post it.

Probably won't help anybody though 'coz these bizzaro problems seem to happen to me only.

I'll email good ol' Stevie and ask him why his ShieldsUp test is making my life miserable.

Thanks again Blacksheep. Your the top.

[raritan]

I logged on earlier, to ask why snoop.anonymizer.com could always determine my true IP. None of the other checkers, including GRC, that I have tried, could detect it when I was using a good anonymous proxy server.

I started Multiproxy, inserted two good proxys, got out of Netscape 6.* and then restarted the browser and went straight to snoop.anonymizer.com.

This was the first time they were unable to determine my true IP.

Thanks, Guys!

[Blacksheep]

raritan...
I'm glad someone got some good from this thread altho I'm surprised that GRC Shields Up! didn't remember your true IP when you test with no proxy then test with anon proxy in same browser.

For all readers...
http://snoop.anonymizer.com question for anyone:

I've got ActiveX, Java, scripting disabled and am using A4Proxy to modify http requests, i.e.:

Accept-Language: en
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, */*
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0

If I use A4Proxy in direct mode (connect from my true IP), http://snoop.anonymizer.com still gets this info on my browser, OS, apps:

"Your Browser Is: Internet Explorer

Your Operating System is: Windows *8

You can recognize the following file types through your browser:
application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, */*"

snoop.anonymizer.com traffic in on ports 80, 44*

My question is; How are they getting this info on me?

BTW, it seems anonymizer uses UNIX traceroute from 6*.2*5.252.50 antaries.anonymizer.com This would look like a port scan if one is behind firewall.

[Nulland Void]

Hi guys (gals?),

In an answer from another forum, the GRC "https" situation (mentioned above) was identified as being the culprit, but unfortunately that point was not elaborated upon.

So I'm still a bit in the dark about the problem.

Hope to have an answer soon.

(Also, I've emailled GRC, but no replies yet)

[Blacksheep]

Thanks Nulland Void,

Don't hold your breath while waiting for a reply from GRC.:)

Hmm... snoop.anonymizer.com uses https connection also. Need more input... any TCP/IP gurus out there?

[johnny]

Don't know the answer either.

But if you manage to find a good proxy (only SOCKS proxies qualify in my experience) that Still Listener calls "AnonyLevel *" and your proxy "precious," you're damn-well impenetrable :-)

Check your proxy with the usual stuff disabled:

http://www.stilllistener.addr.com/checkpoint*/test2/

[raritan]

snoop.anonymizer.com

I beat it once, but have not been able to duplicate the feat. I've tried proxys from Malaysia, Morocco, Thailand, Turkey that fool GRC, nettools, the Russian guy and every other proxy checker I can find. Snoop still pops the IP. It can't seem to do the tracert, though. It just times out and stops. The others trace to the proxy's home.

[raritan]

With my present setup (Proxomitron and a really good proxy) I am able to get Anony * and
proxy "precious". The proxy came from their site.

[Patrick Head]

Have read this thread from a/z & recall the frustration I went trough many months ago. How ever, I over came the problem ref. IP# show.
This is basicall the recipe I now use & it works :-)
*/ get rid of all that gratuitious stuff Uncle Bill leaves on IE.
Go to tools, then internet options, then security. Click on internet then custom level and scroll down to Microsoft VM/Java permissions. Check the custom box then click on the Java Custom Settings button which will appear at the bottom of the window. Go to edit permissions and disable the run unsigned content box
Cookies » out etc:

2/ Go this URL & down load JAP (java anon proxy) http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html
down load a hard copy of FAQ & any othr help files to assist you.
You probably will also need to down load Java 2 Runtime enviroment from the above site in order JAP works.

*/ Spend a little time cramming the FAQ & help files

4/ Install JAP + JRE

5/ No more pop ups, IP#, etc: etc:

You might also try to make A4Proxy work properly :-) it is my standby. When JAP goes down I revert to A4 & by the way. A4 has a whole host of paramiters you can alter to cloak your true IP# as has been s***ested by 'blacksheep'

Enjoy & hope this helps & if it works, use it with prudence ;-)

[Blacksheep]

Welcome to the forum Patrick.:)

I found a HTTPS environment variable checker: https://magusnet.com/cgibin/printenv.cgi

This URL was dead yesterday but working today. Don't think it lists all variables.

~~~P.S. Found another: https://www.somebody.net/full.html

Looks like http://snoop.anonymizer.com gets browser, OS, prog info with HTTPS environment variables. Don't think much can be done about it. A4Proxy and probably other progs can't "see" or modify encrypted transmissions between browser and Web sites. Too bad.

~~~ P.P.S: I forgot to give ****** to Nulland Void for first pointing out that snoop problem was maybe https. So, kudos Nulland Void, and my apologies.

Snoop and Magus do not get my true IP with good anon proxy in A4Proxy. Both were working at the time of this post but both have been dead over the last few days.

If you are behind a firewall it may take snoop awhile to finish what appears to be a Unix traceroute.

[Nulland Void]

No problems, Blacksheep.

This HTTPS situation is a brain-wrencher.

BTW, I did get an answer from GRC, but nothing very informative. In fact, from the tone of their reply, they seemed a bit touchy about it.

So I'm still investigating..

[Blacksheep]

Nulland Void:

"This HTTPS situation is a brain-wrencher."

The way I understand it is https connection is SSL encrypted connection between browser and Web site so https headers can't be modified since they're encrypted. https can get one's browser, OS, language, etc. but, if one uses good anon proxy, https environment variables won't get one's true IP.

"BTW, I did get an answer from GRC, but nothing very informative. In fact, from the tone of their reply, they seemed a bit touchy about it."

Maybe grc writer didn't know the answers to your questions.;-)

"So I'm still investigating.."

Ditto.

[Nulland Void]

BRILLIANT!

That's basically it. Encrypted headers.
You plum got it, kiddo!
Big congrats!

[zahid-z11]

Originally posted by Nulland Void
That's good advice Blacksheep.

Ok. When I try a proxy, I go in my Nav's Edit menu, Preferences, Advanced, Proxies, Manual proxy configuration, View.
Then in Servers, HTTP:(put in IP # or proxy's name, ie:2**.22.***.82 or pad20**08*67075.ozemail.com.au, and the port # in the corresponding field)

This has now become a moot point since I've found about half a dozen that work, BUT...

each one I try and test at Still's and http://leader.ru/secure/who.html
show a different IP # than my real one, which is wonderful. However, GRC shows my real IP #.

??????????????????????????????????????????????

This is a mind boggler.

(I don't know how that thingy face got in up there)
Oh god! more mysteries...