New functional trojans????

[Vongoethe]

Hey brothers , how is it going ? , i am new in the forum and i was looking this information about a new functional trojan but i didn`t have luck finding one , i was wondering if you all know some trojan that still works? because all of them are already detected by antivirus software and it has become really difficult to make an intrussion .

I hope someone knows the answer :S :) :( :D ;) :p :o :mad: :rolleyes:

[Ezekiel]

Hey brothers , how is it going ? , i am new in the forum and i was looking this information about a new functional trojan but i didn`t have luck finding one , i was wondering if you all know some trojan that still works? because all of them are already detected by antivirus software and it has become really difficult to make an intrussion .

I hope someone knows the answer :S :) :( :D ;) :p :o :mad: :rolleyes:

I have decided to stop flaming posts from newbies, and actually answer their questions, even if a quick search of this forum and google could have found the answer;


Think about it, any trojans that are available to you will be detected by antivirus programs. The only malware that is *not* detected by antivirus programs is that which is unavailable publicly, and not widely distributed. If a trojan can be downloaded by you, it will already have been downloaded by antivirus software creators, and added to the next virus definitions update. So, the only way to get malware that is not detected is by:


Hex editing an existing trojan

This often makes the program unstable; a lot of hex editing guides tell you to simply remove a huge chunk of code where the "signature" is, making it not detected. Programs were never designed to have massive amounts of code simply cut from them. A better way of doing things would be to know a lot about ASM and the portable executable format, then you could easily make a few changes to safely make it undetectable. Of course, if you knew ASM, you would not be wasting your time trying to get someone else's work to not be detected, you would simply write your own.

Private source

If you know someone who is good at programming then you can probably convince them to give you the source to one of their projects, if it is private, then (usually) it will not be detected.

Programming your own

Yes, I recommend this option; you will learn far more about computers and programming this way. But if you have no experience of c/c++ (I don't consider VB a programming language) and the windows API, then it would be wrong for me to say that you can easily make your own, it takes probably a year to get anywhere near that level.


If you're interested in taking the programming option, then some scripting languages like html, php, javascript, perl, and python are a good introduction to basic programming concepts before trying to learn more advanced languages like c/c++. For scripting languages used in websites, this site will help you:

http://www.w*schools.com

And for learning c/c++, this is a great tutorial that I learned a lot from:

http://newdata.box.sk/bx/c/htm/ch0*.htm

And these tutorials have been good for explaining c++ windows programming, once you know some c++ and want to move on to GUI based applications these will help you:

http://www.functionx.com/win*2/Lesson0*.htm
http://www.hal-pc.org/~johnnie2/windows.html
http://www.relisoft.com/Win*2/
http://www.winprog.org/tutorial/

And for some winsock help for your network based programming:

http://www.hal-pc.org/~johnnie2/winsock.html


If after all that you just want some lame script kiddie's trojan, then here are a few websites offering them:

http://www.hackpr.net/~sub7/main.shtml
http://www.bo2k.com/
http://www.prorat.net/products.php?product=ProRat
http://www.chasenet.org/home/page.php?*4

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[TheOne]

Cyber terrorism (Virus and trojans making)
can give you as many years in jail as normal terrorism (bombs and guns)

[Ezekiel]

Cyber terrorism (Virus and trojans making)
can give you as many years in jail as normal terrorism (bombs and guns)

There is a difference between making malware for educational purposes, and actually using them to steal data or information. Simply being in possesion of malware does not mean you created it for anything other than to further your programming knowledge. And I think terrorism has far greater punishments than simply using a trojan on a single person. Of course, DDoS attacks are a lot more illegal.