Scripting, langauges, Os, etc...

[mlg solidsnake]

Hi, im just wondering where i can find these sort of resources.. and where are some good places for me to learn simple things like langauges and how different opertating systems work like unix linix, etc.. and maybe like langauges like python pearl C+ Visual basic...

sorry if theirs something on this site already talking about this subject,

frankly i dont wanna ask dumb ass questions id rather just learn on my own then ask questions so if anyones out their willing to help with hacking resources, how systems work, langauges os', please respond Thanks!! Edit: Sorry about not using google just had some bad experinces with getting spyware and some other stuff claiming to teach these things, Btw sorry if this seems like spam?

[Moonbat]

Well, for C++:

http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/C++/

For *nix tutorials:
http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/howlinuxworks/
http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/howlinuxworks/linux_hlindex.html

[mlg solidsnake]

Well, for C++:

http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/C++/

For *nix tutorials:
http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/howlinuxworks/
http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/howlinuxworks/linux_hlindex.html
Hey thanks for posting all that im really greatful, but what is a good beginner langauge to learn ive heard python if so can someone post a link>?

[Halla]

Python

An interpreted, object-oriented programming language developed by Guido van Rossum. The name comes from one of van Rossum's favorite television shows, Monty Python's Flying Circus. Python is very portable since Python interpreters are available for most operating system platforms. Although Python is copyrighted, the source code is freely available, and unlike GNU software, it can be commercially re-sold.
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http://www.programmingtutorials.com/python.aspx
http://www.awaretek.com/tutorials.html
http://www.python.org/doc/
www.python.org
http://jmsoler.free.fr/didacticiel/blender/tutor/english/index_prog_python.htm
http://www.techiwarehouse.com/Python/Python_Tutorial.html
http://www.freeprogrammingresources.com/python.html

Here is a link to excellent modules to add to your python collection, you have to go there to understand. They help make exploit development/payloads in python. Metasploit uses them for advanced payload development.

http://oss.coresecurity.com/index.html


as per:
http://ilforums.thedarksun.org/viewtopic.php?t=*60

[Ezekiel]

Hi, im just wondering where i can find these sort of resources.. and where are some good places for me to learn simple things like langauges and how different opertating systems work like unix linix, etc.. and maybe like langauges like python pearl C+ Visual basic...

sorry if theirs something on this site already talking about this subject,

frankly i dont wanna ask dumb ass questions id rather just learn on my own then ask questions so if anyones out their willing to help with hacking resources, how systems work, langauges os', please respond Thanks!! Edit: Sorry about not using google just had some bad experinces with getting spyware and some other stuff claiming to teach these things, Btw sorry if this seems like spam?

Wikipedia is a great resource for research on things like this, but check stuff out with Google as well.

Languages? Depends what you want to do. If you're a beginner, obviously low-level languages (such as C, C++ or Assembly) are gonna be somewhat difficult. If you want web pages, learn the browser languages (XHTML, CSS, Javascript). If you want fully dynamic websites, learn PHP, Perl or some others like that. If you want computer software, go with C, C++ or Python.

As a beginner, choose something easy like Python for software. For web, start with XHTML, style it with CSS, add functionality with Javascript and then write some PHP for the server you're hosting it on.

For general computer knowledge, pick an language and always refer to resources like Wikipedia.

The guys below have provided enough info, so I'll shut up now.

[mlg solidsnake]

hey guys i really am greatful for all the useful information everyone has provided especially mike listing the difference between langauges, now ive been doing some research i actually read about 6hours worth of C++ and a lil vb, plus i've learned some Xss, Now i have a domain that i own, my question is well ive been experimenting with my own website with some brute force cracking just to see if theirs any security flaws, but for some reason when i try using my cracking software its not able to connect to the host... does anyone have a good ideas for testing some stuff on my domain, and where i can get the resources that are available? Btw Thanks guys

[Moonbat]

What brute-forcer are you using?

Is it configured to attack form-based logins?

[mlg solidsnake]

What brute-forcer are you using?

Is it configured to attack form-based logins?yes i believe it is ill edit in minute to get all that info for yah gotta help mom for a sec lol Edit: Brutus AEt2... It has Http form, So maybe some help with this ? thanks guys

[Moonbat]

HTTP authentication is different from form-based logins.

For instance, try to go to this link: http://hellboundhackers.org/fusion_admin

It brings up a dialog box asking for username and password. This is an example of HTTP authentication.

I'm not sure if Brutus can brute-force forms or not, I've never tried.

P.S. - Don't try to brute-force HellBoundHackers' HTTP authentication please:)

[mlg solidsnake]

HTTP authentication is different from form-based logins.

For instance, try to go to this link: http://hellboundhackers.org/fusion_admin

It brings up a dialog box asking for username and password. This is an example of HTTP authentication.

I'm not sure if Brutus can brute-force forms or not, I've never tried.

P.S. - Don't try to brute-force HellBoundHackers' HTTP authentication please:)
well i understand now what http authentication is, but it does have a option for "Http form" and it says trying username admin, (which i believe its going through the dictonary already installed) but does it take a long time for brute force to work? and if not or so or whatever lol what should be a good brute force to try on my domain? sorry for all the questions bro... just really info hungry cant find anything on google more helpful then you and mike

[Ezekiel]

well i understand now what http authentication is, but it does have a option for "Http form" and it says trying username admin, (which i believe its going through the dictonary already installed) but does it take a long time for brute force to work? and if not or so or whatever lol what should be a good brute force to try on my domain? sorry for all the questions bro... just really info hungry cant find anything on google more helpful then you and mike

Brute force is a pointlessly slow 'attack' method, so I'd advise you not to waste your time with it.

As Moonbat said, there's two common methods to restrict access to websites: basic authentication and custom form-based login systems. They're not interchangeable.

Basic authentication is enabled on a directory (on Apache) with .htaccess files, and when you try to request a protected directory, you get the dialog box asking for username and password. This is used on relatively unprofessional sites, such as porn sites' members' areas.

The better way of authentication is the use of HTML forms. Ebay, Yahoo, Gmail -- they all have text boxes for you to enter your details into, then hit submit. This hugely varies on different websites and there's no way to predict it.

You can brute-force HTTP authentication with little or no configuration on the tool you're using, but with form-based logins, you have to configure it with details such as the post variable names and the script to target. You can't brute-force these types of logins without doing some research and config.

[Moonbat]

well i understand now what http authentication is, but it does have a option for "Http form" and it says trying username admin, (which i believe its going through the dictonary already installed) but does it take a long time for brute force to work? and if not or so or whatever lol what should be a good brute force to try on my domain? sorry for all the questions bro... just really info hungry cant find anything on google more helpful then you and mike

Like mike said, brute-forcing is very, very slow. Unless the password is from the dictionary (i.e. a common word) it will take very long.

Brutus has a very short dictionary list. I'd s***est Googling up a much better, longer list

[mlg solidsnake]

yah, ive noticed how slow it is after testing it lastnight... its actually not very accurate neither, it seems like to me from what ive read that brute force login is sorta not as popular as it was in the *0s era, cracking itself is so complicated that i think most methods of trojan/keylogging seems better off rather then brute force, well anyways ive been reading up learning as much as i can within these few days and i was wondering where can i try all this stuff im learning without getting in trouble? im learning but i need to experiment a lil in order to fully understand. well if anyones willing to help either here or on aim/msn i'd rather speak on aim if one of you wanna help hit me up with a message and we'll talk thanks guys! :)