Very awesome Java

[Moonbat]

toast, You're right, People will always get hacked. Does that mean we should make it easier for them to get hacked? The user isn't always wrong. Yes, maybe 80% of the time, someone opens a bad attachment, or visits [url]www.comegethacked.com[/url] but many times it's because they aren't computer smart, and don't have time/skill to verify the site or a certificate, and rely solely on their antivirus/antispyware to protect them.

By the way, I found a cool JavaScript injection to verify sites, here it is

javascript:alert("The actual URL is:\t\t" + location.protocol + "//" + location.hostname + "/" + "\nThe address URL is:\t\t" + location.href + "\n" + "\nIf the server names do not match, this may be a spoof.");

[toast]

But if people didnt got to risky sites, didnt download porn, and all the other crap they do, there wouldnt be such a problem.
But who would do anything with out knowing something about it? I mean would you put together a car, and not know how it runs? Or how to maintain it?
Im requested for alot for computer help, and I know that most of the answers to the questions are in the user guide or what not.
I think that its not b/c the person cant do it, its b/c the dont want to put effort into something.
You dont have to have a passion to learn something. You have to try. Trying something will get you farther than always getting something right. Its always easier to ask for something than go out and get it for yourself.
I finally get to vent about ppl. *yay*
Havent you noticed that people always ask "hack this for me"?
The whole reason of all problems in the world is b/c no one cares. Its all about "me". The unsocialized self.

Okay. Im done. I feel better.


The code you got was from GRC.com. Very handy and useful.

Toast

Ps, Forgive spelling and grammar, got cought up in the moment.

[Ezekiel]

mike*0*, You are saying that only *0% of people use Firefox, right? So hackers won't target it, because so few people use it.

This is a destructive combo. Here it is.

*. *0% use it, therefore it is targeted less by hackers
2. Someone notices this, then tells others to use Firefox
*. Many people join, and tell others who tell others who tell others who tell others....
4. Let's say in a year nearly 60% of people now use it, thinking that only *0% of people use it, so that means they aren't going to get h4x0r*d
5. But they are wrong. Hackers now catch on to the fact that many people are joining Firefox, lured by the sense of security. They now focus on Firefox
6. Soon, smart people start using a new browser I'll call Finkle. They swtich for the same reason people switched to Firefox
7. Repeat steps *-5, replacing Firefox with Finkle.

Yeah, but as I said above:

think security is not an issue here - every piece of software is going to have bugs so smart people run an AV and a firewall. But out of the question "Which browser offers the best online experience", firefox wins every time.

Every browser will encounter vulnerabilities which compromise its users' security. Firefox may not be currently targeted but it will be in the end, so security is not a factor in this argument.

What we have to look at is which browser gives the best browsing experience - and anyone who says IE is just a microsoft fanboy. Other browsers clearly have greater functionality and features.

If someone runs antivirus and firewall programs, they reduce the risk of malware infection to almost zero. Antivirus programs can usually detect exploit code before it takes effect (unless 0-day), and even when it doesn't detect the code it will detect the payload arriving in the form of a common piece of malware (because **% of exploit users are script kiddies). Antivirus programs can also prevent users from downloading and running malware unless they explicitly choose to run it.

Say a user somehow manages to install malware on his/her computer. The firewall will prevent the software from sending away any personal details, so the only thing which could happen is either a virus infection, data deletion, or a ransomware attack. They don't stand to lose anything which can't be solved with a re-install.

So the point is, if a user takes necessary precautions, their browser is irrelevant for security. As long as they stay smart and don't trust untrusted software or unsolicited emails, they will be fine.

[123456]

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[toast]

Why worry at all about stuff like virii and other shit; if you are not doing anything that puts yourself out there, then it shouldnt be any headache.

[Ezekiel]

Interesting discussiong.



You underestimate malware. I help out in several security forums and I can tell you that malware can and will compromise computers. It seems stupid really because people think having an AV and a firewall is the solution. Yet they don't bother to update Windows with the latest service packs and patches - this leaves the system wide open to infection regardless of the browser in use.

There are lots of reasons why different browsers are better but what if a user doesn't have an AV, firewall, up-to-date computer with all patches their system will get infected. No browser can prevent this.

If you want to enhance your online browser security then I would keep the browser you like but simply run it in Sandboxie or on a VM. That way everything is contained.

IF you don't then the best advice would be to keep everything updated, have a good AV and firewall, install all patches and be careful in which sites you visit. I know its sometimes not easy to tell whether sites are bad or not without visiting them but there are ways round this: SiteAdvisor, Link checker: [url]http://linkscanner.explabs.com/linkscanner/[/url]

I personally use FireFox because I like the features: add-ons to allow most things e.g. view IE pages in FF, ability to customise things more easily and tabbed browsing.

Just out of curiosity Syntax****** - how about creating a poll to see what browser people prefer. If you made this a separate thread you can then maybe ask people to put the specific reasons why they choose that browser e.g. tabbed browsing. It would be interesting to see whether people did it for certain reasons or just the layout or something.

Well my point was every browser is going to have vulnerabilities, so we should decide on the overall functionality of it rather than immunity to bugs.

Attention all readers of this thread: I have created a poll in a separate thread for everyone to submit their favorite browser and why.

[~~smart~fool~~]

whats argueing over browsers have to do with 'very awesome java'?

[Moonbat]

Well, it started because people were saying IE was unsafe because it was prone to JavaScript users with malicious intent, and said FireFox wasn't.

[~~smart~fool~~]

this thread has been jacked by you ppl argueing over browsers...

[Ezekiel]

this thread has been jacked by you ppl argueing over browsers...

Ok, well if you people want something back on topic, here is some URL javascript I quickly put together to do mostly annoying things...

Note: Try these at your own risk! Most run on an endless loop and the only way to stop them is to end the browser's process.

Number * - The window flasher. Enter this into your (or someone else's) browser and the window will keep flashing until someone decides to close the browser:

javascript:while(*){window.blur();window.focus()};

Number 2 - The endless alert box. This will pop-up an annoying alert box on the browser which simply reappears when 'ok' is clicked. AFAIK, there is not enough time to close the browser window before the next box pops up and you must resort to task manager. This can be used to tie up someone's computer while they aren't looking.

javascript:while(*){alert("This will never end")};

Number * - The window opener. This will keep opening up new windows on google.com as fast as the computer can physically handle. This will eat up resources until killed manually. Google.com could be replaced with a shock website if you particularly dislike the victim - they won't have much chance to close the window.

javascript:while(*){window.open("http://www.google.com")};

Number 4 - The scroller. This javascript will keep scrolling up and down on the page until it lags your computer down.

javascript:while(*){window.scrollTo(0, 500);window.scrollTo(0, 0);};

Number 5 - The window mover. This resizes the window then moves it continually in a square movement until you get bored; then realize there's no way to stop it. Unless of course you use Firefox which allows you to stop unresponsive scripts.

javascript:function pause(numberMillis){var now = new Date();var exitTime = now.getTime() + numberMillis;while (true){now = new Date();if (now.getTime() > exitTime)return;}}window.resizeTo(*0, *0);while(*){pause(200);window.moveBy(200, 0);pause(200);window.moveBy(0, -200);pause(200);window.moveBy(-200, 0);window.moveBy(0, 200);};

Number 6 - The smooth window resizer. This resizes the window gradually back and forth once.

javascript: function pause(numberMillis){var now = new Date();var exitTime = now.getTime() + numberMillis;while (true){now = new Date();if (now.getTime() > exitTime)return;}} for(var Counter = "0";Counter < *0;Counter++){pause(*00);window.resizeBy(-*00, -*00);}for(var Counter = "0";Counter < *0;Counter++){pause(*00);window.resizeBy(*00, *00);}

******: I created all this code apart from one function to delay execution for a specified time, which I found here:

[url]http://codewalkers.com/forum/index.php?action=displaythread&forum=clientside&id=584&realm=default[/url]

[Moonbat]

Unless of course you use Firefox which allows you to stop unresponsive scripts.

I should've known you'd stick a pro-Firefox in there somewhere

This is some cool stuff. Are you allowed to use anything that Jscript supports?

[Ezekiel]

I should've known you'd stick a pro-Firefox in there somewhere

This is some cool stuff. Are you allowed to use anything that Jscript supports?

If by JScript you mean javascript, then yes (JScript is Microsoft's version of javascript, other browsers mostly use Javascript). All javascript can be placed in the URL as long as you keep it on one line and remove any newline characters (return/enter). Some URL javascript must be placed in the void() function, and it has access to the current page.

For example, enter this into your browser:

javascript:alert(document.cookie);

[~~smart~fool~~]

hmm very slick